A few years back ,I traveled in the quest of the grandslam. My point of a trophy during this time was the colour in the tail of the birds more then the beard/spur size. One bird I got riped off in SD , he had a pretty White tail fan ,but No spurs at all and the beard was about 8 1/2 long. I aswell understand your opinion here. I find wieght tends to be the biggest issue among Turkey hunters. My thought has always been " Can you really tell that bird was 21 lbs and not 20,, or how come you didn' t wait out for that 25 lber?...BT[