Group hug. Never mind some of those others, people can be very defensive about knowing nothing of certain things. I havent lived in scotland but my wife sudied at glasgow caledonian for a while...While your manner is a wee bit agressive even for a scot, I can sympathise with you having to put up with the traveling american. Dont you wish more of us did[8D]. Oh...and I am a trophy hunter too, but not the kind I think you have a problem with. In my eyes, everyone who hunts with a set objective is trying to get their trophy.