@!#$@!#$@!#$ netscape isn' t posting my text so I' ll re-type it...

aaarrrggghhh...

I shot the Forge' s in the beginning of last year - I planned on using them for 3d but by May or June I was down to 5 of 12 shafts - the rest were broken. I then decided to fork out the big bucks for a dozen GoldTip 3D pros - which lasted ALL season & by the end of the year I still had 11/12 good - the 1 broken was my own fault - I slipped pulling it out & pulled it @ 90degrees snapping the shaft...

Anyway - there' s several guys around here that shoot the forge' s and several of them like them.

My opinion - good priced hunting shaft - don' t expect them to be as strong as others & your mileage may vary...