I shot them at the beginning of 2002 for 3d season.

Several guys around here shoot them & several of those LOVE them. I think they are fine in weight & straightness but I, PERSONALLY, was not impressed with their strength.

By June of 2002 I was down to 6 of the 12 - the others were broken - due to *natural* causes. I then decided to fork out the big bucks for a dozen gold tip 3d pros. The gold tips lasted the *rest* of the year - and I shot them 1000' s of times more than the forge' s. When I ended the season I had 11 of 12 that were still good - the 1 I broke was my own fault - I slipped & pulled crooked trying to remove it from a target & snapped the shaft.

I think they are probably a decent hunting shaft but I' m not convinced they are strong.

Their finish is similar to the GT' s - pretty rough - pretty tough to pull out of McKenzies...