this year i rattled in the buck i killed...i rattled him in the last day 1st time was in the morning and ididn't get a shot and then in the afternoon i called him back in and got him.. i use 160 class and grunt call i start off light and then get in to it...i blow my grunt call as loud as i can i'm been good luck with that...this was during the pre rut but really close to the rut.. and some people say about the buck to doe but where i hunt i have found a doe bedding area and every year there is a good buck in there about breeding time..and it like 5 doe to 1 buck if that ..i killed mine and then looked up and there was abigger one and then i saw another one about the same size i kill 9pt 15in spread...just want i think//////////////