hey they say we dont need our guns , we fight them with the nra and other groups . peta and other groups say we are cowards for killing helpless animals . (there is a anti on biggamehunting.com now)(kills4fun) . and then of all the places i see some people who say they are hunters and are "totally dedicated to archery" on these message boards. they attack and put people down that use crossbows. they claim that crossbows have a higher loss rate. well B.S. bows have if not the same then higher. but i am not going to condemn them like they condemn people like myself. you so called dedicated bowhunters need to look at what your argueing against. the same aruements you use against crossbows may be used against you by non hunters.