Good thread. I just start shooting myVortex at a target block I bought. Thebolts from 10 yards go into the block just about to the feathers. If I put silicone or wax, will they go in further? Also, they are extremely hard to pull out usisng a practice tips. If I put one of those razor 4 cutting tips, will they go in farther? How do they come out with the four back ends? Any suggestions wouild be great. Gimphunter - sorry to barge into your thread but maybe this will help you too.