Thanks, I understand that! When year did Excal switch back to the manual safety?? I will probably buy a 2007 model when the new ones come out to get it cheaper. Unless they have something new that I like better. I usually stay away from first year products as they sometimes have bugs to be worked out. I'm sure they do thorough at Excal though. The Vortex I understand is the same as the Exocet200. Except the Vortex has the new thumbhole stock design which I prefer. In my case with my back and neck issues it is easier to keep steady and shouldered longer. I like my TR HD175 as far as performance and the accuracy is good,but it is awful front heavy being a compound. I have lost alot of muscle mass in the last couple years and my core strength is down due to this damn disk disease and multiple surgeries. I am thinking the Vortex will be much easier to handle and service. Also I feel I will be happy for a long time with it and not have to upgrade again since the Excals are kicka$$ anyway!

chris