Well guys looks like I am going to go without a deer with the bow this year duckk season opened saturday and I have taken a buck with the smoke pole and my 7yr old daughter took a nice 8 point thursday afternoon gun season is open know and I am not about to go in the woods with a bow during this time of year to many idiots out.I always try to get one with a bow in the early season cause that is the best oppurtunity to take a buck in a routine you can pattern. I hate it for the team i hope I haven't let you guys down but duck hunting is what I love and I will go deer unting when I can not make it to the duck blind with the rifle. THanks guys and I am sorry for not harvesting a deer for the team.