I have a 12 ga. 870( scoped) that I have had for many years. It has the slug barrel but it is the improved cylinder choke. I have tried many differant types of slugs in that weaponandI alway go back to the good old federal1 oz. pumpkin slug. Nothing fancy and only 2 to 3 bucks a box. Have killed many deer with at type of slug. Remington make a excellent weapon but I have had two 870's and thay both shot Remington slugs for crap. Federal was without a doubt the best slug for holding a patternno matter whatdistanceI was shooting at.