Here in Kansas... not only do they build shabby ass wooden treestands.. They also think that pushing deer through cornfields with a bow is a good idea. So, my public land spot is ruined because the majority of the hunters in this state don't know their asses from a hole in the ground. I had 3 trucks park next to mine.... 5 guys walking around 3 without camo... 1 without a weapon... and the other guys parked themselves within 40 yards of me and set up. I know most of the good hunters that put the time and knowledge into it around here... but the low lifes and the poachers around here kill it for every one else.