mouthcaller:

I have said a number of times in this thread as well as others that I was going to up grade. if fact, some of the scopes you have listed are the ones I am thinking about. I have missed 3 deer just last year with a tasco on my 30 - 06 but it was user error. another thing I can not use open sites on my muzzleloader, I bought it used and someone had removed them and don't see putting $40 pair of sights on it, when I only paid $40 for it. I am planning on getting a new muzzleloader next year with a better brand of scope. but like I said, I will be upgrading when I have saved up enough money too. I do have plans.

but there is on thing I do agree with ya, bsa really really suck, I know that first hand, I do have one problem with my tascos. when you sight them in, shot, sight to the hole, shot, sight to the hole. it is not really a problem, saves me ammo.