i couldnt agree more with you...i havent shot a deer around there in the last 4 years because I dont want to be one of those people. I saw over a dozen 2 yr old bucks last weekend and 2 deer that were 4-5 yrs old. hopefully i can get to an old one before they are wiped out by the shotgun hunters.

i would say i hear of around 5 deer that people take in the area every year that are over 140...and maybe 1 a yr over 160. there is a lot of ground for only that few of good deer to be taken.