Thanks for the suggestion OKBowhunter, but it wasn' t the poor tolerances of the the CNC machined riser, It was a significant segment of the grip that extended past the riser. Since I am a woodworker I just trimed it back. I thought it was weird, because at the time there had never been a difference in the mathews riser/grip interface, not like some manufacturers who change risers every year.

A more serious problem was that the grip came up too high on the riser, bending the thumb back under the riser ledge, not very comfortable.

If you look at a shrewd grip, there is a 45 Auto like beavertail safety assembly that holds the hand down out of the way.

Have they fixed these probelms, probably, but I don' t appreciate paying 150 for two grips that were not ready for prime time. On the other hand, the Hoyt grip I got at the same time was perfect.

Workmaship wise, the grips had minor pooches that had been buffed over, but they were there to see.

The other main problem is that the grip they then sold was almost twice as wide as a Shrewd grip, to which I see no advantage. They now have a bunch of mathews grips, some of which are pretty narrow. I could convert a Mathews grip into a better than Loesch grip in about 10-20 minutes of woodworking. I couldn' t make a Shrewd grip out of wood, too narrow.

The main advantage to Loesch is that they make a wide range of grips, Shrewd grips only fit Mathews, and a few others by accident. There was mention of a Bowtech grip last year, but they have dropped that, or for some reason, it never made the web page.

Getting in touch with Shrewd, is no bargain either, once the ASA season starts. Try the phone.