imo, the safest most secure feeling your gonna get will be from a Tree Lounge. however, unless you spend the extra money for the bowhunter platform, you can not stand and stretch. i will say though, the TL is by far the most comfortable stand i have ever sat in. i am currently in the market for another stand...i still love my TL but i want another stand for a second location. i was looking at the Gunslinger, which looks comfortable. the only drawback i see with the Gunslinger is not being able to hunt facing the tree. for my second stand i want the option of facing or facing away from the tree.