i started out into weopons and did not start hunting till i was in my 20's. i used to walk around on timber co. roads taking the gun for a walk.actually had a couple of shots but missed. i wanted to get serious and hooked up with a bow hunter, i practiced with my used bow and he put me on a hot stand .i arrowed a 4 pt, after that gun hunting was much easier after looking at it like a bow hunter.