Groups would be all arrows in that group. I wish I could eliminate that 1 stray arrow myself and then I could say I shoot 4" groups at 50 yds. However, I always have a stray.

Apie plate at 20 yds is a huge margin of error. Maybe at 50 that's good. You have to consider that when shooting at deer stuff happens and if you aren't shooting close to the spot you are aiming things can go bad in a hurry if the deer moves a little.

The first shot is the most important. If that 1st shot is on center I'm happy and ready for game.I get bored with practice and my mind starts to wonder a lot of the time. but if that 1st shot out of my bow at 40 yds is within 2" of center I'm a happy man.