This old horse keeps rising from the grave to get beat to death over and over. So far, it's been on Excal and At several pages each. The info came from an Italian site. They can't hunt much over there. It's really two different topics, target shooting and hunting. The anti crowd does not deal in facts and figures, but rather emotional rants, usually prefaced w/ "My brother-in-laws neighbor";"A guy at our club"; yada yada. Future users looking for info are not going to be misled, 40 yds and under is everywhere, and most prefer 40 feet.