Not to get off topic or change the direction of this thread and although I agree completely with the comments on the virtues of the M 70 triggers, I also believe the Ruger triggers are often maligned unnecessarily. Out of the box the Ruger trigger is heavy but is till positive and without creep. Although not adjustable (like the M 70) a good gunsmith or anyone with the skill & knowhow can polish it to a nice crisp 3 1/2 lbs - ideal for a hunting rifle. gg.

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