germ, i tried to answer your PM...feel free to post what you feel suited..sorry i got long winded...you know me...you asked for it

funny you mention my inner circle. the group i rifle and flintlock hunt with actually tease me about taking does. "whooopdeee dooo! you killed an overgrown rabbit!!" they would say...only 1 bowhunts..like the rest of them he really dont know all too much about deer hunting, other than driving them. occassionally he sees deer...but its by luck and chance rather than good scouting etc...they are a different type of hunter..id say they are more like the typical PA hunter than myself. alot arent seriously like me...alot dont know a whole lot about deer and deer hunting..alot hunt just for the commrodity and things like that...which is why i enjoy hunting with them once in a while..dont know what the numbers would look like...it would be interesting to find out...id love to do a poll on a huntingpa forum...but like here...the board junkies are all rather serious hunters and wouldnt care if deer had antlers or not..

im starting to change...for many reasons i wont go into detail about here...but to sum it up...antlers arent important or WHY i hunt. if i had the numbers in the areas i hunt most of the time id gladly kill me some overgrown rabbits!! hopefully i can kill me 1 or 2 this season with the bow...want to get that archery cherry officially popped! got 2 areas in mind that should be promising in terms of numbers...