Ask the non-believers if they will submit to this test..they take their favorite cartridge and you take your 30/30..since the 30/30 won't shoot 100 yards and will never kill anything, they give you the first shot in the dual...see how many will take you up on that bet...after all the 30/30 won't hit anything and it's not powerful enough, right!!!!

I saw this once ina bar when a couple of guys were busting on an ole' timer about his thirty thirty...NO ONE TOOK HIM UP ON THE OFFER..end of story!!