I get so tired of hearing people slam lever guns. The fact is for over 100 years the Win 94 has been and still remains one of the top selling and most effective deer killers around. Year in and year out! Nobody is man enough to admit it though. I have hunted with a 94 in 30-30 for many years (my main gun) in just about every condition that deer are hunted and NEVER had a problem. A little common sense goes a long way.