I just picked up a dozen of the regular Terminator Hunters the other night. Yes, they are heavy. Weigh 404 grains without a tip. They are also 31" long and the insert is already glued in. But they shoot great out of my 61# Hoyt Pro Tec. I shot a 2" group at 40 yardson Friday. Very quiet to shoot as well, compared to my regular arrow that weight more than 100 grains less.