As an out of stater, these threads are interesting. When guys complain about only seeing 12-20 deer in a week, we have no sympathy. Up here in New England, on publiclands,that would be one incredible season, forget about a week. I guessguys who grew up with the over populatiuons still think they should be seeing 20-30 deer a day despite what it does to the habitat.Its hard for an outsider to understand the complaints. AndI have hunted PA before the changes.

I have a friend thatis from Warren County. He took a buck almost every year for some 25+ years on gamelands before the changes. His best was a scrub 7 point, almost all the rest where spikes/forks. Then the new regs came in. Now he shoots big 8's and 10's, and while hes not seeing carloads of doe anymore, he still seesplenty and is very happy with PA now. He said he never dreamed he would be able to shoot bucks like that in PA when he was a kid.

He also said it best "I don't need to see allot of deer, just one, the right one"