Ongoing First Shot Inconsistency - Ideas??
01-07-2011, 07:42 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
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breechplug;my inline T/C's have 8 lands/grooves,most sabots have 4 petals,by indexing the sabot you can have all 8 lands in contact with the petals or only 4 in contact with the lands the other 4 lands riding in the slots between the petals(these load easier and can cause fliers,thou in my experiance not as bad what the op had)
and i would respectfully disagree that a clean barrel can't shoot accurately
...........karl
and i would respectfully disagree that a clean barrel can't shoot accurately
...........karlAlso say you shoot and miss while your Hunting, now you have a Fouled Barrel and what are you going to do Go Home and Clean it then return so you have a Clean Barrel.
Again My shots are not that much different from a clean vs a fouled barrel, but for me I dont want to have to wonder weather or not my shot wil be close, I want to be sure it's right where Im aiming. And on a Fouled Barrel I donthave to worry as I know it's going to be where Im aiming.
Now if every MLer shot the same from a Clean Barrel vs a Fouled Barrel that would be Great, but it does'nt always happen that way. And sure your First Shot should always do the job and then there should be no need to shoot the next one from a Fouled Barrel, but ya just never know so to be sure I want all my shots to be on, not the first one close then the next one's on, I want them all on.
And YES if you sight in on a Clean Barrel for the shot to be shot from a Clean Barrel then that's Great, but that's just one shot, then you have a Fouled Barrel and Yes I have done this in the past. But from now on I do it on a Fouled Barrel so each and every shot is the same.
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01-07-2011, 08:23 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
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If it was me I would repeat your procedure and see what it does then. With the sabot loading noticeably easier with the flyer I suspect something was up with that load. I would try the whole process again for peace of mind and see where it shoots then on a clean barrel.
01-07-2011, 09:09 AM
#23
Fork Horn
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before BH209 was on the market i used T7 in my inlines and had to clean between each shot anyway due to the crudring so after my alcohol/windex patch both sides, dry patch both sides, light oil patch both sides,dry patch again both sides and load,retape the barrel and i'm ready again.after a hunting shot with BH209 i simply reload and then use a damp wd40 patch then dry and retape.then i have a smoke.then i go find my deer
.i have been able to take 2 deer the same day twice in the past 3yrs so i'm happy and have confidence with my method and see no need for me to worry about a quick reload.i don't consider my way to be "the best"but it works for me......karl
.i have been able to take 2 deer the same day twice in the past 3yrs so i'm happy and have confidence with my method and see no need for me to worry about a quick reload.i don't consider my way to be "the best"but it works for me......karl
01-07-2011, 03:47 PM
#24
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01-07-2011, 03:53 PM
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I really think I just am not getting it clean enough and there was residue left from solvent.
01-07-2011, 03:55 PM
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01-07-2011, 04:01 PM
#27
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Came home cleaned and did not use any oil and a had flyer. I will be using Monatana Bore Conditioner from here on as Sabot has recommended and others of you have recommended.
01-07-2011, 04:05 PM
#28
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I spent 3 years trying to get around this problem,the last two were with Blackhorn.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
01-07-2011, 04:07 PM
#29
Spike
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I spent 3 years trying to get around this problem,the last two were with Blackhorn.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
01-07-2011, 04:10 PM
#30
Spike
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 79
I spent 3 years trying to get around this problem,the last two were with Blackhorn.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
I used to sight in by cleaning every shot while sighting in when I used 777 there was not much choice.
Last summer I finally work out a solution, it seems like overkill but it works for me.
I swab out the barrel with a 50/50 mix of #9 and alcohol fire 3 primers swab out again drying each time then fire 3 more primers and load.
This allows me to depend on the first shot hunting to be right on even at long distance. I use Montana X bore preservative to protect the bore and its part of the equation.
