The guys that are offering to help the lesser experienced guys should receive some sort of medal. To many guys out there just don't want to share or help anymore. Reminds me of a time I was bass fishing a point when a local told me I could fish someplace else. (Not exactly how he worded it). I dropped a big waterdog on his deck from 50 feet away and moved on. I booked a hunt in Utah this year just to get a feel for what I should be looking for when I go it alone. Have hunted deer in southern CA for 30 years with good success but can't stand showing up in one of my spots to find 15-20 LA idiots that only hunt opening day camped and partying all night and then yelling to one another opening morning. I've tried to use them to my advantage and let them push the deer to me but any self respecting deer left the area when the camp started forming. I've been reluctant to show many people my best spots for fear that next year I'll show up to the above situation. If the Utah thing doesn't work out for me, I'll for sure contact one of you nice fellows next year. Also, it looks as though more states have started requiring hunter safety for the younger folks. That's good, but it doesn't seem to have helped in CA which has required hunter safety for at least 25 years. Of course I'm talking CA, never mind.