i've always used lee presses. just bought the lee classic and it's a rugged press. the turret presses really speed up loading 150-200 per hour if you want for the 9mm or 38 sp. for my 44mag i'm so close to max load that i take my time and weigh each charge for safety sake i do the same with my 3006 loads. a real advantage is having several turrets so you only set up dies once.