BTB, I shot my first buck at age 14, in fact I didn't see a buck until that age and I don't have a problem with a youngster learning the hard way and becoming experienced with each passing season. One of the reasons I believe I didn't see a buck was they all get shot too young. Yes my first was a 3 point but I'd been okay with waiting a year or two to take a more mature animal and that is all it's going to take. I know a guy in his 50's and has taken only one buck to date and it was a spike a few years ago and he's hunted every year since he was 12. The spike would have been illegal in a AR enviroment but had hunters been passing these animals starting years and years ago, that same 50 something would probably taken more bucks to date. I firmly believe that the buck population will grow and quality animals are going to be the result but this will only be a reality if respondsible hunters do their part to ensure the results. Archery hunters do it now, we pass buck after buck waiting for a quality animal. It's nothing new to me and I'm seeing the results. I can't believe all the flack around this AR, it's nothing new. It's not something Alt pulled out of a hat. What do we think Illinios, Texas and most big buck states have been doing all along. I bet those states new 12 year old hunters don't have to shoot spikes and forkhorns cause that big 8 or better is traveling the same circle. I am leary of some of the downfall to quality bucks in a state, like land leases but who can blame the landowners. If you needed the money would you pass up the offers...that's a catch 22 for most. Putting aside a few youngsters that might not get a buck the first year out, they stand a greater chance the next year and even more the year following at an exceptional animal and all new hunters from that day forth will too. This is only going to effect the first year 12 year olds, one more year won't hurt anyone....cut their teeth on a mature doe. I know I did.