roundball... Where do you get "how they did it back in the day" out of that... that is what I am talking about. Just because someone says they want more of a challenge does not mean he is going to do it "how they did it back in the day".

Who said anything about anger? I am incredulous at your assumptions... once again putting on an arrogant display of what you are certain people are thinking...

As Cayugad eloquently said in his post... "What Huntaway and Roundball perceive as a challenge, others might perceive differently." You just made an automatic assumption that it lined up with your paradigm of how it is supposed to be done.

It all boils down to this... no matter what you hunt with you have to work to put yourself into the position where you can cleanly harvest an animal. That goes for whatever you are hunting with...