Pup, I think we could see a 30 inch riser with 40 degree limb/riser geometry. That would be very close to a 40 inch ATA for indoors and finger shooting. While hunting today with my 34 inch ATA bow, I couldn't see why I'd ever need anything shorter for hunting. I think the manufactures are getting carried away with short ATA bows for draw lengths over 28 inches. I believe 34 to 37 inches is better for draws over 28 for hunting accuracy.