I have been using the goldtips for a couple of years now with no problems. I tried the new camo ones this year but did not like them. I use easten diamond vanes the the aae fast set gel and when I tried to strip off the off vanes to put new ones on the camo on the arrow started to come off and actually put grooves into the shaft. I will just stick to the regular ones. They fly great and are super strong......