I'd say your gonna find a lot of people with varying opinions and much of them can be chalked up to personal preference. I for instance like the winchester cxp-2's in ballistic silvertip. They are the most accurate round I have shot out of my .270 and I can hold a 3 shot 1" pattern at 125 yards. I also have yet to see an animal take more than one step after they have been hit by it. The 415 pound bear I took in 99' didn't even take a step and the 8 pointer I took this year dropped like a rock so from personal experiences I see no need for me to use anything else.