I agree with "stubblejumper", the Weatherby Vanguard, or any other Howa,has got to be the best deal out there on a new rifle.Even better than the Rem 700 ADL..?I've owned three of them now,still have one,a short action that's been rebarreled to 284 Win.First one I owned was a Vanguard in 270 Winchester.Great rifle,but someone wanted it more than I did and gave me more than I paid for it 6 years later.Other one was a heavy barrel S&W 1500 in 223.I shot my first formal varmint match with that rifle,beat out more than one Rem 700 and placed third.You guys in the states are lucky that you can buy them at WalMart. You won't find any guns at a WalMart in Canada.

Edited by - rembo on 12/08/2002 16:47:22