Just for you troy i am chasing milo for the record. Hard to say up here i know i have seen deer that will push 190's. Will i ever get a shot at one with the bow, i doubt it but i know i will get at least a 170 with the bow before my days are done. I see at least 4 or 5 boonies a season and an absolute pig about every 2 or 3 years. Either with the bow or the rifle I have hunted long and hard enough. I am due. Bring on August baby.