I'll admit that I haven't read this entire thread, but I'm not sure what the quote above is based on. I joined HuntingNet in 2000 and have only heard good things about the 25-06, I don't think that I have ever read a derogatory statement about the round (except maybe if someone asked if it was a good round for moose). I'd love to try one out, but the only one I have ever seen up here was being put away at sundown by an out of towner so I've never had the plreasure.