I couldn't agree more DD and Champlain, the hunt is not all about the kill. And every hunt I've been on I have come away with great memories some with kills and some without. But what I'm talking about are outright lies. Example...the last hunt I went on the hunting season opened on a Saturday. We were told our hunt would start on a Monday to allow for deer to pushed on to the property from surrounding properties. When we arrive on Sunday as agreed to get settled in we find out that 4 guys hunted the property all weekend and took 3 buck off the property. We were told we would be hunting unhunted property. I could go on and on.I guess it's just the nature of the business??