I think that is really it in a nutshell, our area or terrain dictate what we practice and consider reasonable. I wish I still had a picture of a Huge mulie buckfrom years back. He was bedding in the middle of absoultely nothing with the prevailing wind blowing to his back. To further complicate the matters he had a harem of does situated around him as well. Stalking to withinrange was an impossible affair and we knew nothing could be done to get within range of this brute.Deer wins yet another battle!

NYBH, I have total respect for your passion and dedication towards hunting with string and sticks.Little doubt you are very proificent in the art of archery and now exactly what you need to be so. However my question was more of what I mentioned above, area, terrain and game form our opinions. I know many who consider a 50 yards shot normal in the wide open flats of Saskatchewan. I myself practicea lot further then I would never shoot, at any animal. Like you I like the slapping of shafts before I consider it a possibility. The described situation was within my possibility before I blew out my shoulder for the4th time, now 35 is as far as I'll even attempt such a perfect scenerio.Such "perfect" stituation withgun or boware quite rare to begin with, so bare in mind extreme ranges regardless of the equipment used are anything but the norm for a true hunter. I said it originally their is no room in my mind for "hope and prayer" attempts and stand by it. Shooting off a bench means nothing as if you miss oh well but animal we owe it to them to takje in account all the variables and take shots that we are 100% confident we will make good on. Thanks for your response and good luck to you.