Ditch the climber all together and get a set of Lone Wolf or Gorilla aluminum climbing sticks and a Lone Wolf Alpha hangon stand for 2-3 hr hunts and the New Millenium hangon for extended ,long hour hunts. Climbers are too tree specific and this setup is what I have found to be the best after bowhunting for 30 yrs. I had a Summit Viper and I sold it. This setup here is much better IMO.