I tried Tink's, it sometime boogered the deer. I don't know if because it is old or if it's the preservatives addeded to the urine but I could never get consistent results using that stuff. I switched to freshly collected deer urine from a deer farm and believe me the fresh stuff smells different than the other stuff and works much better in consistently attracting bucks and does. We use the products from Southern Whitetail Scents and have harvested some really nice bucks ( including 182 monster) using the fresh urine. we get ours from www.southernwhitetailscents.com