RE: buck pic......thoughts, opinions???
I would say they're both three or three and a halfyear old deer, in other words this will be their third fall.
If you look at them they look lean; their necks haven't fully developed as far as girth goes, they're tone, their backs and bellies don't sag.
As for scoring, I would probably guess the first buck at a hair over 130 and the second in the lower to mid 140's.
The second deer is a prefect buck for guessing the score on though.
If you figure a mature whitetail buck's ears are 16" apart when alert, this deer is outside of that. A deer's ears are generally 6" long, and you can tell that two tines on either antler are both right at or over 6" long. A mature whitetail buck's eyeball is around 4" in circumferance, which is good for figuring base mass. Will he make book? Absolutely.