Atlasman,

I understand what you are saying, but allow me to explain why I referenced His statement about the science subject and opening their testing. I could absolutely be wrong about this, but I took that statement as a point towards those seven pages in the other post. I believed he was saying that with the mob type mentality that was going on towards the end, that nothing at that time would have sufficed. I also can say I have seen that happen before. People get upset, start throwing words around, and then if you give them your facts, they say it's made up, or it's biased, you must have paid a lot of money for that study. Now he may have meant something else, but thats the way I saw it. And I don't think he was too far off base. I feel it is always better to stop things when they become heated, and go let heads cool down, then come back together and "TALK" sensibly. But as I said all along. Noone is forced to buy his product. If you don't want it, don't buy it. But leave the people who do alone. It's their money to do as they wish.

And yes I am a Chemist. Wheather I believe they work or not is irrelevant. And finally I still think that stuff with the fart and carbon can only hold so much was funny.

Good luck, Good hunting, and God Bless.