From what you just said that would make a fifty and a thirty grain pellet pretty light in the seat of the pants! Someone told me that the old timers like Jerimiah Johnson used one grain of black powder for each each digit of caliber. Don't know if I said that right. But what I mean is a .50 Caliber would take 50 grains of black powder. It was an Arkie that told me that and you can't always rely on what them fellers say. What is the difference between ffg and fffg? I have noticed that Triple Se7en advertises some velocities on their bottles of powder. And that the velocities for the fffg are flatter then the ffg. From what you have said is that I am just tickleing what I am shooting at with two 50 grain pellets. Now you got me wondering whether I should go strictly to the powdered stuff.