that's exactly how i felt about it rickjames - hands on time w/ a hoyt. plus, its a hunting bow. you put any bow in my hands that's anywhere close to fitting me, and i can hunt with it just fine. me being up in this holler, just to brag on archery a little, has had a real positive impact on the holler. i've got a dad and son that were at eachother all the time, shooting in the evenings together over here, going to 3d's together, and really finding some great common ground. now, funneling the sb in here, it'll be replacing a 15 yr old hoyt bow for a boy - and he wouldn't havea way to replace it w/ a real fine bow otherwise. i'm really tickled. heck, his old hoyt is already outfitted w/ all great accessories i've traded him for cutting the grass or weed-eating, stuff i've just replaced - not because its bad, but because i'm addicted to trying stuff.