I had problems w/ a major name brand target, took me and two buds to pull carbon LII's out. The company advertised a 5 year old removing arrows, which was indeed true, as long as they were aluminum or other brands of carbons besides Gold Tip. Dang, I just loved that target, which was good for b-heads or field tips, just had too many GT LII's to switch to some thing else. Now, I'm using McKenzie's, orange colored, works great w/ both.