Wow, I missed the action here. Lots of facts, a little emotion and lots of ribbing. DougK, I don't need a narrow bow so I have Excaliburs but I will, with out a doubt get a 10 Point so I can stalk through brush and shoot from my new mini pop up blind. If you care, I think the Excals are the perfect xbow for the KISS principle and the 10 Point is the best for hunting in tight quarters. The other manufacturers are good but not as good as the other two. Yes less maintenace in the Excals than the 10 Points but then who the hell wants to stalk with 747 wings? It stalking or hunting in tight quarters is your bag then the 10 Point is your Xbow. If you want to never see a bow shop(I don't mind) and want an awsome bow that is without question the most simple then go get an Excal. When you shoot bows from these two manufacturers you'll know which one but just think of how you like to hunt while shooting them. As for the you know who, you're being a pompus ass. Whoops, did I say that? Sorry, I meant it, unless I am wrong. Which wouldn't be the first time, in which case I appologize in advance. Dan and Mike, you both make me smile every time I see your screen names because you both make me think. Now where is that pet rodent?????