I'm with Mobow on this one. Yesterday I finally got a chance to set the 40 & 50yd pins on my new Dusk Devil II. At 50yds I punched a hole in a Blazer. ( I was pretty surprised at the groups I was shooting). Just for the heck of it after reading this thread I decided to try shooting it. I don't know why, I'll never use an arrow like that in the field, oh well. Anyway, I shot it from 30 and it flew just fine. No noticable noise or fishtailing. It just flew fine and hit the edge of the spray paint 4" circle on my target. I guess the type and location of the damage matters. Now it goes in the refletch pile. This was just an experiment and I'm done shooting this one until its repaired.