I know, but some big game hunting TV persons are sponsored by say winchester or Remington and seems they do like to push the 300 WSM and 300 RUM a bit depending which show you are watching.

but as you know I do shoot a bigbore (45-70) probably wont ever use it on deer but will use it on my bison hunt this year, I might even use it on elk too if I get drawn this year.

Im not bashing any calibers, just really disagree with the title of this thread.....

It should be "Real Men hit their mark with the first shot" if you can do that then honestly it doesnt matter what size gun you are using just aslong as it is suitable for the game you are hunting.

honestly whoever came up with the idea that only real men shoot 30 cals or bigger is real childish. Darn it we are all hopefully adults..... but its beginning to feel a bit like second grade here.......