Thanks for your reply's, I have been having a really hard time "guiding" for my dad and a friend of mine and my season starts tomorrow. My friend finally got his bird yesterday and my dad didn't get one because he passed on the jakes and never got a shot at a longbeard. I have noticed that they already seem to be getting into their bachelor groups and become much less vocal. It is hard to keep track of where they are at because there are only 6 different gobblers that we have seen in our woods and they have been moving around A LOT. I will let you know how I do, I still have my turkey and two friends to guide for before the seasons over... Thanks again for your reply's I appreciate it.