i really dont think u need that much lead to fold a pheasant...maybe far shots...but ive seen them shout out at 40+yds with 7 1/2 and folded them with one shot..that was with reloads of 1 1/8 oz of 7.5 shot..this year since im not hunting with the guy i did last time i am trying winchester AA sportloads...and remingtom niro 27 handicaps both 1 1/8 oz of 7.5 shot...im using them for all my small game needs from grouse and pheasants to rabbits and tree rats...