Sniper, I can agree with you on the dependability of the NP but I don't have a rifle that will shoot any Nosler worth a d--n , execpt for the 30 cal 168 gr custom competition which is neck and neck with the sierra match. I bought some 224 cal n. partisions and they will not group into 3 " at 100 yds from my mod.12 savage and that sucks. I dont want anyone to see my 223 shoot that awful.